bona natural seal on white oak

Prevent the tannin pull so common with white oak. They achieve 95% FULL CURE after 5 days. It did not affect the color. I plan to call the Bona company tomorrow to get their assistance. The tub area is ok -but Im glad I didnt get it in the kitchen. A gallon of Bona Traffic HD = $180 - $200. Met with our selected cabinet company last week and played with stain mixed with white paint on rift oak samples. For a clean-shiny person there is NOTHING that will make them happy in the matte or satin range. There are FAAAAR too many 'dudes' out there that call themselves pros. But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? I would say he under bid the job and was pushing himself to finish (he rushed the stainwhich is why it is inconsistent) so that he could move on and make money on another job. Originally, I had declared never to Quartz after reading peoples complaints about chipping and cracks. Traditionally you will ask for QUOTES and then VIEW their work (photos or in person if they have clients who offer their home as a 'show piece' = very rare) and THEN you hire the person who as the best "fit" for your needs. Please convince me not to settle with maple. Is there another more affordable option I can try? (Plus, the Rubio, the longer it sat there, the more tannins it pulled.) But they did just complete a project with Bona NordicSeal. They are light, modern, and show the natural color and variation of the wood. I'm actually impressed he is putting up with me and my ideas - lol. I personally feel a reputable stone supplier and fabricator will educate you in mineral composition, stone formation, and inform you how and where the stones are quarried. Contact your Bona rep to understand all the options with the Bona System or view our catalog here: https://bit.ly/3eqqhSK. Oh cripe I had a whole response written out and it went poof. Many people would give their eyeteeth for floors of that quality. There is a haze to the floors as someone posted its most likely due to the matte finish. I used no filter on the photos, on an overcast morning from different angles. He can work a section. There was a warning on the front door telling everyone to stay out. How did you retained the natural color of the wood? The webpages say that Classic "highlights the natural color of the wood" while Natural is "designed to retain the appearance of unfinished wood" but having seen the raw, sanded wood which was remarkably gray, I don't know how the latter is possible. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. View a wide selection of Rugs and other great items on KSL Classifieds. I'd love to know if you end up liking your final product and would welcome any photos! Unless you're certain the gaps developed AFTER installation, I'd suggest the possibility they may have been present all along. Hi, I know this is 2+ YEARS LATER, What finish did you end up selecting for your parquet floors? And dont go forward unless they are willing to give you samples with ALL the finished coats. The floor guys made custom floor vents. Thank you! My sister has Neolith and loves it (clean up a breeze but she does have nicks near her sink after 1 year). Dear Doane, A well established hardwood flooring company (a "ma and pa" type store) will have the big machines to get the product off of your floor. P.P.S. Which possibly suggests installation issue. They either look to white/milkey or they are orangish yellow. Also what do you mean by toned oak? And, to be fair to the above poster. My guess would be red oak since they have gone more orange. How to best deal with prominent railings in split level home, Durability of white macabus quartzite vs. quartz. Milesi or Renner, etc etc. We want to stay away from adding a yellow, green, pink or orange tint to the floor. @tkgriff I love your floors and am thinking about going for much the same look! I purchased white oak high grade for our railings and black iron - our floors are Provenza At Ease and my railings match GREAT now, but need to seal them - what do you recommend? The lowest level of gloss I suggest to 'clean-shiny' person is semi-gloss. He told me that the floor would look the same, which was obviously a lie. He installed the floors beautifully, but installed red oak even though I showed him a sample of pre-finished white stained white oak. 2 coats at the right coverage is more than enough for low traffic areas. When I put the natural stain on my floor it looks gray. My guess would be red oak since they have gone more orange. Not the best lighting. Sie knnen nicht notwendige Cookies ber Einstellungen verwalten ablehnen. Looks like it was a screen shot with the flooring compan of Seattle Hardwood out of Mukilteo. That means a single guy can take his time. Our project starts on Dec 5. Be warned the wood and multiple coats of Bona products really add up $$$$. We have 4 inch white oak installed, but I was reading through your post and have no clue where they are from. are you happy with it 2+ years later (and is it holding up well with food/oil stains etc) please share any details, like if you had 2 or 3 coats. He did know his stains and how it would finishI will give him that. It honestly looks just like our white oak (unstained, natural) - I wish I could leave it without sealer etc. if anyone else has found a reasonable solution, could you pls share what you did and a few pix? They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. How are you liking it so far? Cochrans offers this wood in different thicknesses and grades which also impacts the price. ISO something similar to Hallmark Alta Vista "Malibu" in urethane, Questions about chemicals in vinyl install - foul odor, health probs. (Ive read LOTS of old posts!). Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. Je peux rejeter les cookies non essentiels en cliquant sur Grer mes prfrences . ), Share pics of white oak hardwood floors stained with Bona (1st home!). 2 coats of Nordic seal & 2 coats of traffic HD ? Post back here with a link if you get more answers than I did or if you go with white! Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. Please hire someone first before asking them to put down 'colour patches'. Ill post more pictures when I get back to the house. Did 4 coats of nordic and 3 traffic hd on 1 dollar a sq foot utility 4 inch white oak but some was red oak as well but still my dog likes it. @mtpo - Your floors look BEAUTIFUL, thank you for sharing the pics, I can't wait to see the final product. If you are paying for professional grade products, just make sure you are GETTING professional grade products. A hint of tan. The correct answer should be "nothing at all". Amber did of course have the amber/yellow tone - though not as much as I expected. 1 coat seal and 2 coats finish. A VERY trchnichally difgicukt finish yonachieve. For those asking to see Intense Seal on white oak. I screwed that up a few times. First - The second pic you gave looks really weird. Ha. How much should I expect the Traffic HD to change the color? After sanding I loved the natural look of the wood including the knots and imperfections. I did a larger sample of Unico smoke, covered with their Titan (goes on with a roller) and tested it with salty water, red wine and vinegar. I know I've gone on for a while. The only design mistake in the house (IMHO) is this floor - the sample and photos looked so different!). Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. Floors are already sitting in the new house acclimating and I know that I am not cut out for the oil finish.). Start reaching out to those stores that have 25+ years in the hardwood flooring industry. Yep. WebWhite Oak Kitchen Cabinets - Bona NaturalSeal? That 'fit' can include their ability to communicate. I also read you dont want to go too thin. Cant decide! @Bongo. Will do.My two cents now that we are almost 6 month in. Now green is having a moment in the kitchen, These design moves will add even more to white kitchen cabinets appeal, Find out the most popular countertop, flooring, cabinet, backsplash and paint picks among homeowners who are renovating, Neutrals still dominate cabinet color. The 3 coats of finish (the expensive HD stuff) is the Gold Standardbut 2 coats + sealant is still very good. We sell stone, fabricate and install countertops so we're there every step of the way which keeps me up to date on pretty much every stone that is used today. I should add that I planned to use Bona Traffic HD finish as well since I read how durable it is and how it goes on clear without yellowing the wood. If you search my other discussions on this site, youll see how I flip-flopped so many times Corian, stainless, Neolith, D e k t o n, Quartz, wood (for the island top) and finally back to Corian. When I get to see them, Ill post pics. You are looking at putting the cart before the horse. Its small enough, you should be able to manage it. That doesn't sound like what you are after. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. Founded in 1919, Bona offers products for most premium floor surfaces including Bona Craft oil 2K oiled floor in COLOR Air and dogs. Disregard the walls (we are installing a new kitchen). The edge is not as nicely finished as the Corian. Give it a light sanding after it dries with 220 or 240 grit sandpaper. WebSome 5 white oak with Bona Natural Seal and Hd traffic extra matte. Thank you for your input. I already lost quite a bit of money in the process so I wanted to know what I get before committing. You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. All the questions and answers have been helpful to me when I have come looking, so I wanted to post photos from today that will possibly help others choose. Here's how to see if marble's right for you, A couple remodel their kitchen to better match their 19th-century Oregon homes style, The cabinets and a new layout transform a once-dark New Jersey kitchen into a light and bright space, Avoid going too traditional and too clean by introducing an off-white palette that brings a touch of warmth and elegance, Sure, white kitchens are beautiful when theyre sparkling clean. @Abigail Barber Burgum you can just go to their website to find the nearest dealer to you. Sigh. See the before and afters and why we chose this color. Please continue to post pictures of your kitchen. If others have experience with this product would love them to chime in. It is engineered 7 - to be finished on site. These are the LVP samples and my unfinished white oak stair parts. I personally see dolomite and dense sandstones misrepresented as Quartzite more then any other material. My new white oak floors have 1 coat of Bona Natural Seal and 2 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin. Whaaaaat???? Flooring guys are the best since they are redoing to make me happy. Thank you to all of the experts for weighing in. While I am not happy that we are all having this issue - I am somewhat relived to see that I am actulally not losing my mind that this look should be achievable in some fashion . Bona NaturalSeal has a bit of white pigment (less than NordicSeal). Find out how to keep them that way, Tired of tan? We did one coat of Bona natural seal and two coats of Bona HD extra matte on white oak. My cabinets are custom sizes and I was going to go with Barker cabinets (had my order all ready to send), but someone here on houzz recommended I check out this local guy first, and I am so glad I did! We got our hardwood lumber from a lumber mill in Berryville, VA. He will then send the sample to a Sherwin Williams Product Finishes Store and they will match the sample. Which means something is sitting on, grinding down, pressing into or just plain 'sitting on' your floors every second of every day. D Debra Travis Red Oak Hardwood Floors Installing Hardwood Floors Natural Wood Flooring Decoration We refinishing the floor and apply natural seal from bona and top coat bona mega one satin D I believe they put Bona Mega One over the top just for example, but we will be using Bona Traffic HD. I have a dog that has an occasional accident. They should be able to get the job done for you. - I got the curved 1/4 backsplash (if you can call that a backsplash). The Bona Traffic HD is three steps higher than Mega. San and finish guys come in next. If, youre looking for a small amount. I bought a cleaner made for the finish (similar to m quartz) and touch up is easy if needed. Fortunately, the installer is sending them back to the lumberyard to be replaced. I have a small house and should have maximized flow but didn't realize just how much planning that would take at once. Very patient. The company that supplied the raw wood and the installer both recommend Bona products. I have had the same inspiration kitchen photo for months. The solid white D e k t o n didnt clean up as well as Neolithic or Corian. Also did the installer abrade between the seal & finish coats? What I like to suggest regarding 'cure times' is to give them MORE timenot less. That means you relate clean with shiny. No way to maintain and they ALL show scratches very easily and I should know- I get called a lot because of it Help! I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. Watching them put it on, it doesnt look like the work applying it would be more than other finish products. I asked for, but he never did, an all country white one. That's how building law works. They have been through such an immense amount of heat and pressure during formation that all the sand grains have become crystals of Quartz. Sigh. I fear, though, that the amber color has penetrated the wood since a sealer was not used and I am stuck with a yellow floor. That leave NaturalSeal, ClassicSeal and IntenSeal. @mtpo - When will your floors be finished? If, Bona Mega is your budget. If it does nothing: Take a piece of masking tape (not painters tape). Is the haze from the white that is in the sealer or the matte finish, or both? Its a shame since it could be helpful for others. I have been on these boards so many times looking for advice and photos from what others have done. If those were red oak, they did a very good job toning down the red. We went with the Bona Nordic and Traffic HD. En cliquant sur Accepter , j'accepte l'utilisation des cookies telle qu'elle est dcrite plus en dtail dans la Politique d'Utilisation des Cookies de Houzz. You need to start watered down, for they are strongjust take good notes of your ratios, LOL. Thanks again! You can see how the quartz is not as white as the countertop. @widdy23 Seems like everything is taking longer than expected. Is there a really hidden section (you only need about 1 inch square) that you don't mind possibly damaging? I personally love Quartzite. Really not read much about IntenSeal? That makes SOOOO much sense. Thanks for sharing these pictures - they look great! It is less than $0.85/sf. Hi! I'll be sure to question about their history with using bona in the past. Thank you. It wasnt 3 coats in one day. The problem is that at this point my trust level is quite low. WebAn icon used to represent a menu that can be toggled by interacting with this icon. white oak hardwood flooring. It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? Oil wax floor finishes are poor choices for cabnet finishes. I think of a coat of sealant as 1/2 a coat of finish. The samples are done AFTER you hire the professional but BEFORE you put down the stain! This was such a great informative thread. Their availability (not alwaysbut sometimes) or their LACK of availability (the best people are ALWAYS BOOKED months in advance). If youre really interested, Ill call the installer Brazilian Floors and see if he still has the info. They make their final grit-pass and then they will place the colour samples down with a coat of finish. And rubio makes a treatment for acid stains. I'm sorry you felt diminished. Make sure your floor guys are real professionals and have experience using Bona. Forget prefinished. @tkgriff which did you go with and do you like? @Lisa Pearen it would help with identification if you post photos. It is my understanding that these Bona products are tricky to apply. Also hope this helps .. colors hard to see on monitor, I tested classic seal, white stain and Nordic seal as well. Its not a guarantee that the floors wont get damaged, but perhaps the extra coat will buy me a little more time to clean up a wet spot. Classic seal gave a deeper color but I found it to be too yellow. It will make the white oak whiter. I am trying to figure out the same for my rift oak cabinets. I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. Of the Bona sealers, NordicSeal looks to white to me and AmberSeal - well the name says it all, trying to stay away from the amber look. We are having the same dilemma with our cabinets. Some 5 white oak with Bona Natural Seal and Hd traffic extra matte. Here is a link of various lighting for At Ease (it's not shiny at all). So in my mind better to research and ask questions than not. Cant wait to see the reveal, @mtpo - Floors are looking fabulous! I wish people would just post the actual products they use as there are a lot of great examples but no "recipes". Our contractor unfortunately was in a hurry so we didnt test many potential finishes. But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? Thanks. I didn't choose the Nordic because I thought the white pigment made it look unnatural. Right? It seems much darker than the close up picture with the paper removed Just wondering which is closer to what you see in person? Apply and wipe off excess. Please contact us if we can be of further help. The "real" professional-grade products view DuraSeal/Minwax (owned by the same company) to be 'DIY' level products. They held up to move in with no major scratches. MaryJane, My white oak floors have 1 coat of Bona Natural Seal and 2 coats of Bona. I asked for, but he never did, an all country white one. If that does something, it's busted, you don't need to test further. I am in the same predicament and not wanting to settle for maple! The refinisher used the 'trendy' finish that s/he THOUGHT you wanted to see. Heres a photo of our family room. Sigh. Never make color selections off a computer screen or printed brochure. Look forward to more pictures. Our contractor informed me that it is significantly more expensive, $2500 more expensive. Brazilian Floors did the installation and finishing. My cabinets are a true white (forgot name of paint) and all of the Dekton with a white background was too gray. Dark Hardwood Floors vs. Light Hardwood Floors? Your floor looks amazing. Here are some of my samples. But I miss a slightly shiny floor. Yeah, thats what I am realizing. @Lisa Pearen it would help with identification if you post photos. I would have loved to find a simpler, cheaper, regular old stain, but they just don't give me the same look I'm trying to achieve. Held off on final coat until project finished.. which will be done in a few days. Stand up to the effects of UV on the oak over time, 3. I acknowledged that there would be an upcharge for the TrafficHD and expected it. Bona is designed to be 'hot coated' that is to say it does BEST when coat 1 and coat 2 (like sealant and then 1st coat of finish) come in quick succession (less than 24 hours but nothing less than the 'minimum time between coats'). @mtpo your floors are SO beautiful, do you know where they were ordered from and cost per sq ft? I am actually in the process of having a quart sample of the Milesi Natural Effect 2k finish sent my way. Nordic seal is not a easy product to put down, unless you have experience. We didnt get the fumed product because we couldnt know for sure what color the finished product would be. They will not withstand the normal kitchen detergent cleanings that need to occurr to remove grease or pancake batter. I want a natural look as well and I think I'll end up meeting with our floor guy sometime next week to go over samples. I disagree that it was not an attack on me as G & Ss follow up comment said, oh yeah, hidden message. I will ask him about Poloplaz Pearl and Pallman products as well.Would you suggest a satin or matte finish? Maybe a snick less because they won't be using any product. Ill post more photos- the site only lets me post one at a time. Yes.

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